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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #933
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- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 18 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 933
-
- Today's Topics:
- Am-radio conditions and exams in US?
- AZ Northlink Status ?
- Code only Course, Ottawa Ont
- Code Quick for Learning Morse
- GJ3ULT
- HELP! HOW TO IMPROV
- Internet gateway to packe
- I Passed the Test!
- Need Yaesu FRG-7000 info
- Ragchewing conversational protocol
- Regency HR-2A
- TNC Recommendation
- TS-50 mic function control
- TS-690S AND TRANSVERTERS
- VHF: non-FM (2 msgs)
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:24:02 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!pipex!uknet!brunel!xxxxajh@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Am-radio conditions and exams in US?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- My son who is currently working in the States, wants to obtain a
- licence to operate the am. radio bands.
-
- Question:-
-
- What are the requirements for a licence in the US?
-
- Perhaps I should have asked 'for all classes of licence'!
-
- Please email answers as I have to read far too many newsgroupos
- as it is, I can't afford the time to read more(:-)
-
- Ta!
-
- Regards
-
- Alan Holmes G4CRW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Aug 1994 18:05:15 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: AZ Northlink Status ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm going to be down in SW Colorado climbing some peaks the next weekend
- (Aug 27th). Can anyone from Arizona tell me if the Northlink system has
- had the Flagstaff link restored yet? Does it get through from Navajo
- Mtn to Phoenix?
-
- Thanks much!
-
- -Paul Christofanelli
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:43:06 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ac742@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Code only Course, Ottawa Ont
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I noticed in their recently delivered flyer that Algonquin
- College at their Lees Ave. campus will be offering a Morse Code
- only course starting on Sept. 8th and running until Dec 15th. It
- is once a week on Thursdays from 6:30 to 9:30. The course number
- is GEN5532 and it costs $138.41 (some of it tax deductible (talk
- to your accountant)). If you are interested, give Algonquin a
- call at 727-9565 (9am to 8pm Mon. to Thurs. and 9:00 am to 4:30
- Fridays).
-
- Also they will be offering their basic course on Tuesdays
- starting Sept 6 until Dec 13 (also 6:30 - 9:30pm). The course
- number is GEN5530.
-
- The code course is offered only rarely and it is a great way to
- up-grade those no-code qualifications and get on HF.
-
-
- Greg Danylchenko
- VE3YTZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:52:15 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!phinet!ryan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Code Quick for Learning Morse
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Geoffrey S. Mendelson (gsmlrn@gsm001.mendelson.com) wrote:
- : Robert J. Kinder (rkinder@gate.net) wrote:
- : : Has any used the "Code Quick" product by Wheeler Applied Research Lab to
- : : learn Morse code? Does it work? How well? Any comments?
-
- : I have. I had been trying since 1965 to learn the code. I tried all sorts
- : of things and had no luck. With code quick I passed the 5 wpm test
- : (100%, >2 min perfect copy) in about 2.5 months.
-
- Can anyone compare this with SuperMorse or Morse Practice Program? Is it
- something different or does it also use 5wpm charater spacing with 18wpm
- characters?
-
- : Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ (215) 242-8712 gsm@mendelson.com
- ___________________________________________________________________________
- M. Dominic Ryan (610)-270-6529 SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
- Internet: ryan%phmms0.mms@sb.com King of Prussia, PA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Aug 1994 02:42:19 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: GJ3ULT
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- dara@physics.att.com (Shel Darack) asks:
-
- >>Months ago I worked GJ3ULT. There's no callbook listing but it
- >>was suggested that I try sending it to G3ULT who holds the only
- >>call with "ULT" and might also be GJ3ULT. Unfortunately, there
- >>was no response to my qsl and postage. Any other suggestions
- >>from the UK?
-
- I don't know anything about this particular person, but you
- did the right thing. The Gs issue calls in order, regardless
- of the prefix, so if I operated from Wales I would sign GW3NMX
- without any ambiguity. In Jersey I would be GJ3NMX and so on.
-
- I worked GJ3ULT in the Feb 94 ARRL-cw contest (40m), so it sounds
- as if you have the call right. If that is when you worked this
- station, there really hasn't been enough of a time delay to worry
- yet. It can easily take 6 months to get cards printed and face
- answering the requests, considering that right after an intensive
- contest the last thing you want to do is think about that aspect
- of things.
-
- Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
- Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
- Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392)
- oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 09:43:59 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!battin@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HELP! HOW TO IMPROV
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <32t1it$knq@masala.cc.uh.edu>, David Jenkins (djenkins@jetson.uh.edu) wrote:
- > In <2d.23019.2003.0N850D7C@exchange.com>, john.tant@exchange.com (John Tant) writes:
- > >
- > >>I use a different method that works for me. I just scratch down the
- > >>dots and dashes, using a shorthand stroke format I developed, and
- > >>sight read the resulting text. I can read that shorthand as easily
- > >>as I read normal alphabetic text. This is the way Sammy Morse originally
- > >>did it, except he used a machine to make the marks while I do it by
- > >>hand to meet legal requirements for the tests. Of course it isn't
- > >>terribly fast. In normal operating, I let a machine do it too.
- > >
- > >>Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!g
- > >>Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!ga
- > >>534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gar
- > >>Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- > When I took the Technician test here in Houtosn a few weeks ago, I
- > overheard the examiners specifically tell the testees that they (the
- > examiners) would not allow testees to record dots and dashes and then
- > translate them to english text later. It wasn't clear to me whether
- > Gary's method would have been allowed or not.
-
- The method of passing the test by transcribing the dots and dashes and
- then transliterating them into letters during the time allotted for
- "correcting" your text is _specifically_reccommended_ by Wayne Green in
- one of his editorials this year. I don't have the issue handy, but it
- was sometime around May or June. I don't see anything wrong with using
- this technique, if possible, during an actual QSO, but it certainly
- seems to me to be wrong to do so during the exam. The reason I think
- this method is cheating is _not_ because I'm a priori against any _particular_
- means of getting the correct answer onto paper. Rather, it seems to me
- that this method depends implicitly on misusing that portion of the
- exam time which is supposed to be used for correcting relatively straight-
- forward errors, and, IMHO, _not_ to be used to perform some intermediate
- transliteration step.
- After all, if we take the argument to an extreme, why not simply take a
- tape recorder to the exam, record the test, then play it back real slow so
- you can translate it to plain english? After all, making a magnetic
- intermediate impression on a ferrous-oxide-coated plastic strip is just
- an extension of technology in the tradition Morse himself started, isn't
- it? How can it possibly be worse than using a typewriter?
- :-)
- [deletions...]
-
- > Are the rules governing such practices subject to local options? Is
- > there any kind of uniformity in what practices are allowed/disallowed?
-
- Yeah, I'm curious about this too.
-
- --
- Gene Battin, N9XAM
- battin@iucf.indiana.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 04:34:58 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!chnews!ennews!stat!aznetig!daniel.meredith@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Internet gateway to packe
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- -> Path: stat!ennews!asuvax!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!
- -> From: paulv@xs4all.hacktic.nl (paulv)
- -> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
- -> Subject: Internet gateway to packet radio in W
- -> Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:43:03 GMT
- -> Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses
- -> Lines: 13
- -> Message-ID: <32tson$ejf@news4all.hacktic.nl>
- -> NNTP-Posting-Host: xs4all.hacktic.nl
- -> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
- ->
- -> Hi there,
- -> Some time ago I read something about the possibility of reaching the
- -> packet radio network in the US through an Internet gateway.
- ->
- -> Does someone knows this gateway? How to reach/address??
- ->
- -> Thanks....Paul(PA3APA)
-
- Contact WB7TPY@WB7TPY.AMPR.ORG
-
- His name is David and he can e-mail you the instructions on using
- his e-mail to packet and vice-versa gateway...
-
-
- 73 de Dan
-
-
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- P.O. Box 44563 | Ax.25: n7mrp@n7mrp.az.usa.na
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- 85064-4563 ___|"ALL Comments Are My OWN, NOT My Employer"
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- Data PBBS : +1-602-912-0225 | Banyon: Daniel J. Meredith@CS_TEMPE@BAMASW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:09:26 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!zimmer!zimmer.csufresno.edu!rafaels@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: I Passed the Test!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >Mike Wallendahl (i9261739@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu) wrote:
- >: I just wanted to tell everyone that on Saturday I passed my tests for a
- >: Technician No-Code license. Now comes the waiting. How long is the
- >: average wait time now? I heard 17 weeks and 13 weeks. Anyone hear any
- >: more optimistic times? :)
-
- >: Mike, No callsign yet, but 2 days and waiting. :) :)
-
-
- Congratulations! Someone in my radio club told me that one person got his
- license in 25 days! I got mine in exactly 2 months.
-
- 73 de Rafael, KE6JSR -Fresno, CA-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:54:49 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu!chpc.utexas.edu!news.utdallas.edu!corpgate!nrtphaa9.nt.com!brtph560!nt.com!cmwdr01@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Need Yaesu FRG-7000 info
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Looking for a manual and schematics for a Yaesu FRG-7000 receiver.
- Would also like to find out if there is a mod to allow the FRG-7000 to
- run from 12-14 Vdc.
-
- 73 - Dave.
-
-
- ====================================================================
- Dave Redfearn, SR PC LAN Analyst Northern Telecom RTP, NC.
- ph.(919) 992-3925 email: cmwdr01@nt.com qrl? de N4ELM/qrp
-
- All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of
- my employer, co-workers or any other person, real or imaginary.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 18:12:18 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!wa2ise@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Ragchewing conversational protocol
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <43907.hberg@sun.sws.uiuc.edu> <hberg@uiuc.edu> writes:
- >On Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:35:26 GMT,
- >Freeman A. Kilpatrick <fkilpatr@afit.af.mil> wrote:
- >>I just got my license a few weeks ago, and I noticed a
- >>conversational oddity that I hadn't expected. The simplex
- >>nature of conversation is kind of difficult to get used to.
- >>When ragchewing, you *have* to say something when the other
- >>person unkeys their mike. This is in contrast to normal
- >>conversation, where a person will usually continue to talk
- >>if a response is not elicited. Sometimes the person I'm
- >>talking to will stop talking, and I won't have anything to
- >>say. I feel like I can't just sit there, so I have to come
- >>up with some banal comment or something.
- >
- >Good observation. It's especially difficult when you're just starting out.
- >son did most of the radio work, and it was very frustrating for him at
- >first because after a conversation was started, the person he was talking
- >to would make some insignificant comment, then stop. My son would ask
- >"What should I say?" He felt he should respond immediately, but couldn't
- >think of what to say. I "coached" him quite a bit, and now he gets along
- >pretty well. It takes a little thinking ahead so that you can say
- >something, even if it changes the subject. If you =really= have
- >nothing to say, it's time to say 73 and sign off. ;-)
- >
- There are some good aspects of this conversation envirnment, like that
- noone can "barge in and grab the floor" untill you are done transmitting.
- I've had problems in regular "face to face" "in person" conversations
- with people starting to talk before I get done with my sentence.
- That can't happen in a "when you transmit, you cannot hear" system.
- Thus you won't shut up someone tries to barge in, and a third person
- listening will just hear an untellagible mess when we "double" transmit.
- Nowdays, in "face to face", I'll keep talking untill I finish my thought
- when someone tries to interrupt. (I was youngest in my family, if that
- might explain this problem).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 17 Aug 1994 16:05:52 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!gopher.sdsc.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!travelers.mail.cornell.edu!news.kei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@network
- Subject: Regency HR-2A
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Howdy,
-
- > if the Regency HR-2A ( 2 meter mobile crystal controlled ) would be
- > a good radio to use for a packet xceiver?
-
- > And are crystals still available?
- > mark@inviso.com
-
- ==========================================
-
- This has been done successfully before in this area. Xtals are available
- fm JAN Crystals, or whatever they're calling themselves now.
-
- 73 de Jack, K9CUN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:52:53 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ac742@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: TNC Recommendation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Here is a loaded question, but if you were to buy a new TNC to-day (given
- all that on air experience that you have gained since) which manufacturer
- and model would you get? I am looking for the best combination of price
- and performance.
-
- Thanks in advance.
- Greg Danylchenko
- VE3YTZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 06:47:21 MST
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: TS-50 mic function control
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- A while back I inquired to the group about the mic function controls and
- how they were instituted on the TS-50 microphone. I finally got a FAX
- from Kenwood with a schematic on how it is done.
-
- If anyone needs a copy, please let me know.
-
- david wb7tpy
-
- ---
- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
- Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Aug 94 17:22:44 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: TS-690S AND TRANSVERTERS
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Message:
- Greetings, All, I'm setting up my 432 MHz station and I'll be using a
- Kenwood TS-690S as the IF. I know it can be done with a bit of
- effort, but I need some input. If anyone can give some suggestions,
- they would be greatly appreciated. I have two questions:
- 1) The xvtr input is set up for 26-30 MHz, so I'll need to mod the
- rig. I've seen one to do an expanded transmit. Has anyone done this?
- Since the normal modes of transmitting on the ham bands involves a
- selection of filters, what filtering is used if the output is on a
- frequency the radio isn't normally designed to handle? Are they
- bypassed altogether?
- 2) My xvtr needs only 1mW drive, but I can only lower output to 10W
- using the front panel controls, so I'll need to go through an
- attenuator (about 40dB if I figure correctly). As the xvtr has
- separate input and output ports, what's the best way to split the
- signal? Bring out the receive line to a separate connector on the rcv
- side of the internal t/r switch? Build a box with a coax relay and
- the transmit side going to the attenuator and the receive going
- straight through? If I bring out a separate rcv line, I'll be
- bypassing the rig's filter section. Any problems here?
- Tnx, Gary WA4YMZ Gary Rogers@dgc.ceo.dg.com (Not speaking for DG!)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Aug 94 21:11:22 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: VHF: non-FM
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >That may have sounded like a stupid question, but a visit to the local
- >ham radio store convinced me that 99% of the VHF stuff they sell are HT's,
- >plus some less than enthusiastic responses from some local hams.
-
- well, yeah.
-
- most of the new radio sales are probably going to new guys and about the
- cheapest way to get started is to pick up a 2 meter HT when they're on sale.
- we'll have to check back in a lifetime and see if they accumulate a room full
- of stuff they don't use anymore.
-
- i dunno -- it seems we have some sort of culture shock going on. since we
- didn't have much growth in the system (and only marginal replacement rates) we
- ended up with a lot of people with a lot of time in grade. the tech license
- has suddenly twisted this to a lot of new people all at once. i suspect in
- some areas of the country the elmers that normally work the crowd to develop
- their operating skills were suddenly overloaded. it will work itself out in
- time as the new guys become old guys and they get up to speed or develop new
- ways of doing things as needed (whether it is because of new blood or a lack
- of leadership from the old guard.)
-
- 73, bill wb9ivr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Aug 1994 18:59:40 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!ncd.com!newshost.ncd.com!sheridan.ncd.com!@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: VHF: non-FM
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <32u6i3$2kt7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, galen@picea.CFNR.ColoState.EDU (Galen Watts) writes:
- |> In article <32u265$g8d@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sbertsch@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steve Bertsch) writes:
- |> >Are there any stats, or even ballpark guesses, on how many folks are still
- |> >interested in VHF modes other than FM, particularly 2 meter SSB? I may be
- |> >able to pick up a 2 meter all-mode at a good price, but don't want to spend
- |> >a chunk of $$ on an electronic nick-nack. I live in central Ohio, BTW.
-
- |> Nooooo, nobody doing that stuff anymore.
-
- |> By the way, who's selling and what they got?
-
- This is pretty inaccurate statement. In the San Jose area there is a weekly
- evening net with 20-40 checkins! The real answer is that it depends on
- where you live as to how much activity you see.
-
- Certainly the number of people using CW or SSB on 2m doesn't come close
- to the number of FM users, but there is still a fair number of folks out
- there. Don't forget the Satellite applications and the VHF contents. Both
- of these activities have a fair number of participants.
-
- Steve KA6S
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Aug 1994 19:05:39 GMT
- From: news.columbia.edu!tintin.cc.columbia.edu!fuat@RUTGERS.EDU
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <199408151129.EAA21602@ucsd.edu>, <199408170826.BAA02887@ucsd.edu>, <YEE.94Aug17144446@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu>.c
- Subject : Re: Repeater Directory On-Line
-
- In article <YEE.94Aug17144446@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu>,
- Conway Yee <yee@mipg.upenn.edu> wrote:
- >>You say that there is a copy on line someplace on the INTERNET?
- >>Where is it located. I've looked and I am unable to find it.
- >>I'm sure I am not the only Ham looking......
- >
- >As far as I know, the only directory of its sort is at
- >mipg.upenn.edu:/pub/yee/rptr010.Z
-
- And for those of you with access to the World Wide Web, you can also
- go to the following URL:
-
- http://www.acs.ncsu.edu/cgi-bin/repeaterdb.perl
-
- This is a forms interface to Conway's database.
-
- I'm trying to maintain a fairly up to date list of ham resources on
- the Internet (WWW, Gopher, FTP, misc.). Pointers are in the Columbia
- Univ. ARC's (W2AEE) home page:
-
- http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~fuat/cuarc/
-
- (Go to the end of the page.)
-
- Corrections, additions, suggestions welcome.
-
- --Fuat, N2YGN
-
-
-
- Columbia University fuat@columbia.edu
- 703 Watson Labs 212-854-4804
- 612 W115th Street 212-662-6442 (Fax)
- New York, NY 10025 N2YGN
-
- ------------------------------
-
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